Asked by Liberty director Akiko Hart, who moderated the discussion, why Labour is not making a ‘full-throated endorsement’ of the ECHR, Chakrabarti said: ‘I think it’s about the dilemma about how to respond to the risk, for example, of Reform. I’m of the view you cannot out-reform Reform.’
Hale suggested Labour listen to the speech made by the Greens’ new MP Hannah Spencer after she won the Gorton and Denton by-election – a speech that ‘could have been said by the Labour candidate. [Spencer] was talking to the real concerns of real people’, Hale said.